tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post3275894397505911593..comments2023-10-29T05:29:58.599-04:00Comments on Right-Side-of-Lowell: There Is A Black Middle ClassUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-8238711578941786162011-08-17T23:29:06.813-04:002011-08-17T23:29:06.813-04:00I didn't mean to leave Kad hanging, but it has...I didn't mean to leave Kad hanging, but it has been a busy day.<br /><br />I see this as a chicken and egg kind of issue. What comes first? Or is it some sort of a mutual growth?<br /><br />If we house and feed people, will they develop those "middle class" values that will allow them to then succeed?<br /><br />If we provide them with the discipline and life skills that approximate middle class values, will that provide people what they need to succeed?<br /><br />I claim to not have the answer, but to be less than impressed with the impact of the "projects". In fact, I think that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Patrick_Moynihan#Assistant_Secretary_of_Labor.3B_controversy_over_the_War_on_Poverty" rel="nofollow">Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan</a> nailed it when he said that we were destroying Black families. However, in the US we have a mix of poverty and racism that confuses and confounds the problem. One of the reasons I supported <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Chisholm" rel="nofollow">Shirley Chisholm</a> in 1972 was that she seemed to see beyond race to the basic issues of poverty.<br /><br />At the end of the day I think culture counts. The reason Paris Hilton can be a scamp and get away with it is she was brought up well. She got a certain amount of that self-discipline that pulls you through. Amy Winehouse maybe not, but then again, her parents were employed, but they split when she was nine. Number one indicator of success—are your natural parents still married. My two younger brothers beat the odds, as my parents divorced when I was 23 and they were both much younger. They have both done well in life, although the older one took a third shot at marriage to make it work.<br /><br />Regards — CliffC R Kriegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563658418464959198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-71829187902247934722011-08-17T12:21:49.551-04:002011-08-17T12:21:49.551-04:00I've been reflecting lately on how "respe...I've been reflecting lately on how "respect other people, keep your hands to yourself, and don't touch what doesn't belong to you or what you didn't earn" must sound to someone without means or prospects. It's reasonable for "haves" to insist upon these principles as ticket to entry into their civilization, but it's not always easy for those dispossessed and hopeless to find the motivation to come up with the currency. It's easier to riot. And, hence, we have today London, Philadelphia and San Francisco at the same time as we have Cairo, Douma and Benghazi, and we prefer to see the former three as bad behavior, and the latter three as cultural revolution, while the truth is likely a bit closer to the middle than we're comfortable to consider.<br /><br />Throughout history, those on the outside are compelled to violence, and those on the inside prefer to insist upon law and order. Until there is justice, there can be no peace, and we're naive to think it can all be solved through lectures.Craig Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824029248081902170noreply@blogger.com