tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post6142445829706566025..comments2023-10-29T05:29:58.599-04:00Comments on Right-Side-of-Lowell: Mansur StreetUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-23264203222134123792012-09-20T23:08:39.057-04:002012-09-20T23:08:39.057-04:00For Daisha Sheets
My two sources were the Pollard...For Daisha Sheets<br /><br />My two sources were the Pollard Memorial Library, here in Lowell (Refernce Room has some books on early Massachusetts folks) and an historical office of UMass Lowell, again with some books.<br /><br />If you don't live near here you can EMail me.<br /><br />"c r krieger" [all one word] at me dot com.<br /><br />Regards — CliffC R Kriegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563658418464959198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-13894902218675596072012-09-20T20:16:30.736-04:002012-09-20T20:16:30.736-04:00I have traced my heritage back to Robert Manser as...I have traced my heritage back to Robert Manser as well... But whether he is french or english... I can't find his father. Any ideas or resources?Daisha Sheetshttp://www.jranddaisha.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-18684765644203533572012-04-15T02:08:56.508-04:002012-04-15T02:08:56.508-04:00Well either way you can be comfortable knowing tha...Well either way you can be comfortable knowing that the street name is taken from a Frenchmen who left France while they still had a pair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-47163870125599411012012-04-08T09:17:22.796-04:002012-04-08T09:17:22.796-04:00To quote a friend of mine who is French....."...To quote a friend of mine who is French....."Even the French don't like the French." I suspect that the Norman's regarded themselves as....well....Normans. To this day, natives of Provence regard themselves much more citizens of Provence than of France...even down to the local dialect. <br /><br />I think the only folks who regard themselves as truly French are the Parisians....and they don't like anybody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-62069058350980475752012-04-08T08:04:06.650-04:002012-04-08T08:04:06.650-04:00I had come across that alternative version, but th...I had come across that alternative version, but the French Huguenot version has a certain romantic flair to it.<br /><br />Either way, it is French, unless you don't think of the Normans as French, compared to the English in 1066 who certainly did.<br /><br />Regards — CliffC R Kriegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563658418464959198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3046628493283608233.post-37215457660454406602012-04-08T07:56:20.982-04:002012-04-08T07:56:20.982-04:00Not to upset the apple cart on this....but I'v...Not to upset the apple cart on this....but I've located an interesting rebuttal to your theory of origin.<br /><br />Quoting from Wesleyhardenzone.com: ORIGINS OF THE MANSURS OF New England<br /><br />The name Mansur is not a corruption of any similar French name. It is derived from the old NORMAN MANSUR, which was a Christian name and by the Normans introduced into England, but not now frequently met with in England.<br /><br />The earliest mention of the name in New England occurs on the marriage record of Charlestown, Mass., and it is there spelled "er".<br /><br />James Manser was a passenger to Barbados, on the "Alexander" May 2, 1635. See Drake’s Founders of New England. He was age 27.<br /><br />"The name is from Richard Manesier, Normandy 1198. Quotation from "the Norman People" by Henry S. King and Company<br /><br />It is probable that the Mansurs in this Country came from IPSWICH, ENGLAND. There was at that time a family spelling the name just that way living in Ipswich, and one of the men was a mariner. He may have owned a ship which came to this country, or have been in command of one, and have brought a relative over, and that relative may have become the ancestor of the family in this country; that would account for one of the name being listed among the passengers of any of the early vessels.<br /><br />Charlestown was the center of a settlement of many fishermen from the Isle of Jersey. It is possible that Mansur was one of this group. The argument against this view is that the "er" has always been sounded, while in the other cases the spelling has been changed to agree with the pronunciation.<br /><br />Charles Harley Mansur in 1891 wrote to John H. Mansur that he has heard the tradition that the family went to England with William the Conqueror from Normandy; heard also that early in the history of New England three members came from England, and two were killed in a battle with the Indians, and that all Mansurs are descended from the other one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com