For John, BLUF: The Second Amendment isn't JUST about the Government. There is also the natural right to self defense. Nothing to see here; just move along.
From the Instapundit. Note that Fairborn is in the Dayton, Ohio, area.
WAIT, I THOUGHT THIS KIND OF THING NEVER HAPPENED: Home Invasion Suspect Dies Of Gunshot Wound. “One man was killed and another shot in the leg when they, along with three others, allegedly participated in a home invasion Monday evening where the residents fought back. . . . Fairborn Police Sgt. Paul Hicks said the only motive they’ve uncovered was that the subjects intended to rob the home. Two Wright State University students who live at 1006 Victoria Ave. were home when the intruders entered. Trent Seitz, 21, reportedly struggled with the men and was ordered to the floor. He called out for his roommate, Christopher Muse, who told police that he grabbed a gun and fired at the men.”UPDATE: Or Texas, but maybe that is to be expected.
Regards — Cliff
What's your point?did they need bushmasters and high capacity magazines? Should they not have had a backround check?
ReplyDeleteI trying to figure out, how one's right to 'hunker in their bunker' outweighs my right to safely leave my home?
ReplyDeleteIf I wanted to leave my home to stand a high probability of getting into a firefight, I'd move to Beirut or Mogadishu.
It's awesome that private safety is codified in the Second Amendment. What about Public Safety?
OH WAIT! The Second Amendment IS about public safety! Not to bear arms, without being infringed, but to be able to keep our unalienable rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Let's have this discussion, but leave the gun fetishists alone in their bunkers, please.
I was confused by the background check thing. Was that for the person with the weapon or the five guys trying to break into the house? I figured that if it was a legit weapon there had been a background check, or there should have been a background check.
ReplyDeleteAs for safely leaving your home, how does someone else hunkering in their bunker thwart that?
Regards — Cliff
If they would only stay in their bunkers!
ReplyDeleteThe "Stand Yor Ground" motif has been challenged, these days: GPS Mistake Allegedly Leads to Deadly Driveway Shooting
So, NOT standing your ground is the preferable alternative? Is that it? In NH at the moment, we have a state rep who says that it is the citizens duty to run when confronted by a bad guy. Is that freedom? When you constrain everyone's freedom to defend themselves, you simply create a society of victims. Cops rarely catch the bad guy if they miss the event.....and they do miss the event regularly. "Well, I can take a report......."
ReplyDeletePeople who give up their rights in exchange for security will ultimately have neither.
The so-called "gun nuts" that are being so enthusiastically vilified in the Progressive Lapdog Media haven't really killed anyone. It is the NUTS who are killing people....and a HUGE percentage of them come by their guns via the "alternative" program.
Here is the problem with the whole registration program......it serves as a wonderful database for the eventual confiscation of weapons. One of the earliest politicians to realize this methodology was Vladimir Lenin.
I personally don't believe that any government has either the need or right to know what I have....or don't have. But then, when has government ever cared about rights when they consider themselves superior to the individual? We have and continue to move perilously close to the government no longer being in existence to serve the people....to where the people exist to serve the government.
I see the idea that retreating might well be prudent. A television is not worth a human life, even the life of the thief. On the other hand, what do you do when you can't retreat any further? In our home in Alaska, once you moved past the living room there was no way to retreat—and I had a sledge hammer in the bedroom to break out the windows in the event of fire. To get out you needed to break out all four windows in the casement.
ReplyDeleteSomeone pointed out there is a lot more per capita rape in the UK than in the US. Are we just less aggressive or do guns play a role in that?
There is a lot of sociology as well as criminology and philosophy that sill needs to be understood in this area. And that is on top of the question of if rights are natural or granted by the Government.
Regards — Cliff