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Friday, January 8, 2021

Calls For Impeachment


For John, BLUFThis is so unhinged I am quoting Zero Hedge.  Nothing to see here; just move along.




From Zero Hedge, by the mythical Tyler Durden, 8 January 2021.

Here is the lede plus quote:

House Speaker Pelosi just cranked up the crazy to '11' by making the news cycle focus on President Trump's use of nukes before he leaves.  She just issued this statement:
Preventing an Unhinged President From Using the Nuclear Codes:

This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike.

The situation of this unhinged President could not be more dangerous, and we must do everything that we can to protect the American people from his unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy.

She spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; who said what?

If the situation is so dire, why are she and her fellow Congresscritters taking the weekend off?

This seems like Democrats cranking up the volume.  And perhaps voting to ensure Donald J Trump does not come back in 2024.  Is President Trump that much of a threat to the Democrats and their hold on power?  We could get a hint in 2022.  Or maybe before.

And perhaps she wishes to see action taken before we fully understand what happened on Wednesday last.

The alternative explanation is that President Trump so offends her sense of how politics should be played that she viscerally can't let pass any opportunity to take a slap at him.  I wonder if one might say her reactions to Donald J Trump as Pesident are unhinged?

UPDATE:  And then my wife "Airdrops" this item to me:  "Lady Gaga: ‘I Hope We Focus to Impeach Trump’ to ‘Disqualify Him from Future Election’".  These people are terrified of President Trump, and the American People who voted for him.

Regards  —  Cliff

4 comments:

Ed Flaherty said...

Hello Cliff
I am Ed Flaherty, an Air Force veteran, we were together in a history class at UMass Lowell (10 years ago?) in a brief time we became friends.

I'd like to ask, how do you think that we can bring reasonableness back into our government and the political discussion?

I'm not a fan of Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump. But, I really have trouble with the Republican Party enablers. We all know Donald Trump, his personality, his behavior, his history. We knew what we were getting, but we expected checks and balance, a reasonable support systems, reasonable people, and the Republican leadership to "reel him in" when, as an egotist, he went too far - that has not happened

I believe that President Trump does not represent the Republican Party, I believe that Donald Trump only represents himself, and only cares about, himself and his brand. I don't really have difficulty with that because we all know egocentric people and we've all have witnessed people in power that believe only know what is right. What I have a problem with is a party that fails to recognize and deal with an egotist in power. Educated professional leaders that abandon their moral values to promote themselves and their own power and positions - at the cost of risking riots, our elections, the constitution, and our democratic system, that is the real problem.

Millions of people have been lead to believe that they can not trust our elections. Millions of people have been lead to believe that they can riot and attack the US Capital.
Millions of people have been lead to believe that government via twitter, controversial and false statements, innuendo, and the bully pulpit is the real form of true democracy.
Millions of people have been lead to believe that every news outlet that disagrees with Donald Trump lies and has an agenda; only Fox News tells the truth, only Fox News has no agenda. Millions of people have been lead to believe that they can believe just what they want to believe ... just because they disagree with facts.

Donald Trump didn't do this, the Republican Party did it via Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham, and Mitch McConnell enabling an egotistical president with little or no moral values gain the control and power that the founding fathers feared in a chief executive.

Did anyone realize where this was going? Did anyone notice how many leaders left the government, and what they had to say when they left? Leaders of the Republican Party seemed more concerned with getting Trump's support than in maintaining our nations values. Being afraid of a leader, giving a leader too much power, allowing a leader to incite riots ... does any of that sound like the United States of America ... or a banana republic?

Did the Republican Party leaders learn nothing from McCarthyism?

Checks and balance can not be expected to work alone, any system requires reasonable and moral leaders - the Republican party leadership has failed us.

C R Krieger said...

Responding to Ed Flaherty

I wish I had a pat answer for the future, but I don't.  The system says that Joe Biden won the Election and at noon on the 20th he will be my President.  And by my President I mean he will be the person I look to to guide us out of this quagmire.  I bet no one thought it would be this tough when they signed on months ago.

I think that the idea of Impeaching President Trump at this point, with less than two weeks to go, is an act of vengeance more than an act of governance.  Even if everything breaks for the Impeachers it will be a close run thing, and then the New President, Mike Pence, will be in a position to pardon former President Trump.  Sure, Mike Pence is very unhappy with the President, but he is a person who take the long term view.  What we don't need is trials for the next six months to a year.  Especially if everyone gets called to testify.

Yes, the Republican Party faces a crisis.  Look at Mass.  The Governor has rejected Donald Trump.  He has not reached out to the Trump supporters in the trenches.  That is left to the Mass State Committee Chair, Jim Lyons.

The real question is where we go in 2022.  Do we go back to the old Republican Party, represented by Sen Romney and Gov Baker?  Or, do we pick up the threads of what Trump brought forward and use them to fire up the voters?

I am proud of how the Republican Party has reached out to minorities and working class Americans.  I think the efforts to return money to the workers and to lighten the administrative burdens on firms has been good. I think we need to take that and build on it.  Moving on.

Regards  —  Cliff

Ed Flaherty said...

With all due respect, I think you are missing the point ... or avoiding the point.

As I see it, the issue is that the so called moral leaders of the Republican Party gave up all of their beliefs, and all of the party's beliefs, to follow a crazed leader. It was more important to the party to follow Trump than to work for Republican principals. The Republican Party leaders enabled another Huey Long / McCarthy type to come to power.

Even now we are unwilling to admit that Trump was guilty of sedition. It is more important to defend Trump than to admit that he has risked destroying our election system and our government ... and that the leaders of the party enabled him ... that is just wrong.

I think we need to move on, but we need to do something to make sure another Trump doesn't occur. More importantly we need to denounce him and reject his actions, because if we don't millions of people will continue to believe that the media lies, the election was stolen, and that they need to riot to correct things.

When you make a mistake, you need to acknowledge it and say "I'm sorry" before you can move on. The likes of Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham empowered an unqualified, unstable, and morally corrupt leader to steal our Republican Party. And, even after attacking the capitol, they still won't denounce him. Who are we?

C R Krieger said...

Sorry, I am late to this, but this has been a distracting time.

Yes, the media lies.  Or covers up.  How else do you explain the failure to mention the Hunter Biden Imbroglio?

Did The Donald have his faults?  Absolutely!  Was he guilty of sedition, or insurrection, or a coup.  I don't think so. Thus, I am not going to purge the Republican Party of Donald Trump or his supporters.

I think that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has denounced the President with regard to the 6 January Occupy Capitol Hill action.  I think he was wrong.  I think that when the facts are finally sorted out we will find the crowd on the Ellipse was not the problem on Capitol Hill.

While I accept that Joe Biden should be the one sworn in on Wednesday, I think those who use the term "baseless" to describe voter fraud are either blind or lying to themselves.  Was it enough to make the difference.  I am guessing not.  Did it appear to happen in Philly and Atlanta?  Yes, and it was "in your face."  I am not happy about that.

But, back to the President, I don't think he was particularly more evil than previous Presidents.  Lord Acton says that all great men are bad men.  I suspect not all great men, but many.

What we don't need is some form of "denatizification" of the Republican Party, much as Democrats would like that.  If you think nothing good was done over the last four years, nothing to be learned and fostered, then you are missing opportunities.

In my humble opinion.

Cheers  —  Cliff