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Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Science and all that

It is hard enough selling AGW, but then something like this comes along and it gets harder.  This is about the latest edition of the Times Atlas of the World.

Quoting from The Mail (London):
Accompanying publicity material declared the change reflected ‘concrete evidence’ that 15 per cent of the ice sheet around the island – an area the size of the United Kingdom – had melted since 1999.

But last night the atlas’s publishers admitted that the ‘ice-free’ areas could in fact still be covered by sheets of more than a quarter of a mile thick. It came after a group of leading polar scientists from Cambridge University wrote to them saying their changes were ‘incorrect and misleading’ and that the true rate of melting has been far slower.
Who are you going to believe these days?  The publisher of the World Famous (and world class prices at 150 Pounds) or some scientists at Cambridge?

Hat tip to the Instapundit.

Regards  —  Cliff

6 comments:

Craig H said...

It's unfortunate that all these enthusiastic AGW supporters can't resist the urge to spin homemade (and sometimes made-up) hyperbole when the simple facts themselves are sufficiently compelling. (The historical photos of Glacier National Park being one particularly dramatic case in point).

Anonymous said...

What is unfortunate is that the lapdog media has failed to provide a forum for a rational discussion of what many claim is global warming. Instead, only those who support the Algore hypothesis have been allowed to publicize their views. The naysayers have been silenced and/or vilified for failing to sign on to the "majority view" that global warming is "settled science."

The problem with "settled science" is that REAL science is never...EVER...."settled." The overarching goal of science is to disprove everything that is "proven." Were that not the case, we would still be subscribing to Newtonian physics and the flat earth view of our world. That disease is caused by "miasmas" as proclaimed by the world renowned leaders of medicine in the 1800's would be a "scientific fact."

Cambridge "scientists" say the melting is slower and that the death of the ice pack is reported prematurely. So instead.....legions of "non-scientists" decry their pronouncements and claim otherwise.

The "scientific community" is still engaged in significant debate about "warming" and if it is even "real" let alone what is causing it if it is.

Fear sells media. Americans in particular are addicts of hysteria....and if we can't find something about which to race screaming through the streets each day, we simply make something up.

Having lived in my current location for over 25 years now, I can speak authoritatively about my own remembrances of local (that reported within the confines of my immediate lawn and house area) weather phenomena. This is the first time we've had sub-40 temps in early September. Now I am certain that there are many learned scientists who will claim that the unusual cooling is in fact caused by the unusual warming....and that in fact....black is simply a phenomenon in which white is suppressed. Up is really down.....and all reality is indeed fictional.

But then...I take comfort in the "fact" that the sky really isn't falling....at least...according to the schedule recently published by Chicken Little.

C R Krieger said...

I understand the meme that Repjublicans don't do science.  Fortunately, this is an engineering problem and not a science problem, and folks like Geo W Bush and Rick Perry seem to have some faith in engineering.

Once we start looking at AGW as an engineering issue we will begin to find solutions to approaching problems.

Regards  —  Cliff

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of desperately trying to plug the gaping hole below the waterline on the Titanic instead of lowering lifeboats and handing out life preservers.......

Somehow, man in his limitless ego, is of the opinion that we can engineer our way out of forces of nature that we don't even understand. We are looking for solutions when we are not even quite sure what is the problem.

C R Krieger said...

Lifeboats are the engineering solution.  That, and water-tight doors that go all the way up.

Poor engineering doesn't negate engineering.

Regards  —  Cliff

Anonymous said...

and now a luke warm mea culpa from those wonderfully knowledgeable folk that bring us Times Atlas.

More man made fog....

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/20/times-atlas-apologizes-for-misleading-greenland-ice-melting-claim/?test=latestnews